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167: The Power of Joy: How To Transform Your Life With Neal and Carly Samudre

March 20, 2023

Have you ever felt like you’re constantly pushing yourself to change, but it never seems to stick? Maybe you’ve been told that if you just try harder, you’ll finally see the results you want. But what if that’s not the case? In Episode 167, we interview Neal and Carly Samudre about what happens when you start from joy. They will challenge the idea that pushing through blood, sweat, and tears is the only way to achieve lasting change in your life. Drawing on insights from the Bible and the latest research in positive psychology, they’ll explore the power of joy as a driving force for transformation. Join us as we explore a new way of thinking about change—one that starts from joy. Get ready to leave shame, guilt, and fear behind and discover the fulfilling life you were always meant to live.

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In This Episode, You’ll Hear About The Following:

  • The difference between happiness and joy
  • Why shame, guilt, and fear aren’t good motivators for change
  • How therapy and theology can go together
  • How to start from joy when you are suffering
  • How to start from joy when it comes to your body image

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

  • Pick up a copy of Neal and Carly Samudre’s book, Start from Joy: Trade Shame, Guilt, and Fear for Lasting Change, a Lighter Spirit, and a More Fulfilling Life 
  • Pick up a copy of their guide, Start from Joy Guided Journey: A Road Map to Emotional Health and Positive Change –
  • Check out Neil and Carly’s website with their podcast, downloads, and more
  • Want to hear more about how joy can positively change your marriage and family? Listen to our previous episodes about joy!
    • The 4 Habits of Raising Joy-Filled Kids
    • How To Strengthen Your Marriage In 15 Minutes

Quotes and Tweets:

  • When it comes to change:
    • Shame says, “I am not enough so i need to measure up.”
    • Guilt says, “I’ve done wrong and I need to make up for it.”
    • Fear says, “What might happen if I don’t achieve this change?”
  • Shame, guilt, and fear sabotage the change we want.
  • Joy is always in the journey.
  • We are children of a perfect God. We don’t have to earn his love.
  • Fear is not always bad. It’s only when it bullies you.
  • How do you start from joy at the weight and body size you are right now?
  • There’s more to life than naval gazing—just focusing on my self and literally my belly size. Why don’t I look up and see what God has for me today, regardless of my body size?

Personal Reflection or Discussion Questions:

  • How can you start from joy when it comes to your devotions?
  • If you feel like you’re not enough, ask, “Where does this shame come from?”
  • Who do you want to be as a spouse?
  • Who do you want to be as a parent?
  • What would it take for you to pray this prayer sincerely? “Thank you for my whole body that allows me to experience this whole world.”

Meet Neal and Carly Samudre:

Neal Samudre is the cofounder and CEO of Enjoyco, an emotional health and wellness company designed to help individuals enjoy positive change. As a viral writer on joy, he has written articles that have been shared by over five million people. More than 500,000 people have completed his devotionals on the Bible App. 

Carly Samudre, LPC-MHSP, is a licensed professional counselor in the greater Nashville area. She is also the cofounder of Enjoyco, where she helps individuals enjoy positive change

TAGS:body imageCarly Samudreemotional healthfearguilthappinessjoymotivationNeal Samudrepositive changepositive psychology.shamesufferingtheologytherapytransformation
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Thanks to everyone who wished me a happy birthday. You all represent different times and aspects of my life made all the more meaningful and brighter because of your presence. 

My 40s started off with me doing some pretty deep healing, learning to dream again, learning my limits, learning how to say no, learning to ask for what I needed, and learning to listen to my body. It has been a bumpy and beautiful journey.

8 weeks ago, I felt my body start to crave running again. Since my concussion 6 years ago, I haven’t been able to run without it resulting in a massive migraine. Running was not only something I no longer enjoyed, it was an activity that caused me deep pain. I was quite surprised when I felt this urge to run, but I’ve learned to listen to my body. I also knew it had been a LONG time since my feet had hit the pavement in a speed faster than a walk, so I needed to take it slow. I also needed to re-learn how to run. 

I started the Peloton run outdoors program. My first run outdoors was a bit chaotic and quite humorous; I felt completely out of my element and could only run 2 minutes without needing to walk. But, what I would have previously labelled ā€œembarrassingā€ (which would have led me to quit), felt more like I was honouring what my body was signalling to me. I did not have a headache and it felt good. 

Fast forward 2 months and I finished my Peloton running outdoors program today where I ran 30 minutes straight without walking or stopping…a huge accomplishment as compared to day one. I think I will always be learning how to love and accept my body, but today, I rejoice that I am one step closer.
•
Follow
Thanks to everyone who wished me a happy birthday. You all represent different times and aspects of my life made all the more meaningful and brighter because of your presence. My 40s started off with me doing some pretty deep healing, learning to dream again, learning my limits, learning how to say no, learning to ask for what I needed, and learning to listen to my body. It has been a bumpy and beautiful journey. 8 weeks ago, I felt my body start to crave running again. Since my concussion 6 years ago, I haven’t been able to run without it resulting in a massive migraine. Running was not only something I no longer enjoyed, it was an activity that caused me deep pain. I was quite surprised when I felt this urge to run, but I’ve learned to listen to my body. I also knew it had been a LONG time since my feet had hit the pavement in a speed faster than a walk, so I needed to take it slow. I also needed to re-learn how to run. I started the Peloton run outdoors program. My first run outdoors was a bit chaotic and quite humorous; I felt completely out of my element and could only run 2 minutes without needing to walk. But, what I would have previously labelled ā€œembarrassingā€ (which would have led me to quit), felt more like I was honouring what my body was signalling to me. I did not have a headache and it felt good. Fast forward 2 months and I finished my Peloton running outdoors program today where I ran 30 minutes straight without walking or stopping…a huge accomplishment as compared to day one. I think I will always be learning how to love and accept my body, but today, I rejoice that I am one step closer.
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